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15 games · times Eastern · stats are before today's games

Tampa Bay Rays at Baltimore Orioles

12:05 PM ETOriole Park at Camden Yards · Baltimore, MDFinal
Top 1st Rays bat vs Corbin Burnes RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 20 of 28 (71%) · 0.36 runs/1st 28 starts
Pitcher vs Rays scoreless 2 of 2 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 2 starts
Rays vs RHP scored in 31 of 109 (28%) · 0.40 runs/1st 109 games
Rays top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Orioles bat vs Zack Littell RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 16 of 25 (64%) · 0.52 runs/1st 25 starts
Pitcher vs Orioles scoreless 2 of 4 (50%) · 0.50 runs/1st 4 starts
Orioles vs RHP scored in 32 of 103 (31%) · 0.58 runs/1st 103 games
Orioles top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 6 mph blowing out (+4 mph toward center) · 66°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “6 mph, Out To RF”
Plate umpire Mark Wegner
With this umpire run in the 1st in 24 of 46 (52%) · league 49% 46 games
Per 1st inning 0.87 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 1.65 K (lg 2.00) · 1.17 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-102-125
BetMGM+100-125
Caesars-105-125
betonlineag+100-133
BetRivers+102-132

Market's NRFI chance: 53% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Washington Nationals at Pittsburgh Pirates

1:35 PM ETPNC Park · Pittsburgh, PAFinal
Top 1st Nationals bat vs Jared Jones RHP1 run
Pitcher, this season scoreless 14 of 18 (78%) · 0.44 runs/1st 18 starts
Pitcher vs NationalsHasn't faced the Nationals
Nationals vs RHP scored in 17 of 100 (17%) · 0.33 runs/1st 100 games
Nationals top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Pirates bat vs Patrick Corbin LHP4 runs
Pitcher, this season scoreless 22 of 28 (79%) · 0.50 runs/1st 28 starts
Pitcher vs Pirates scoreless 2 of 2 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 2 starts
Pirates vs LHP scored in 7 of 44 (16%) · 0.30 runs/1st 44 games
Pirates top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 9 mph blowing out (+9 mph toward center) · 66°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “9 mph, Out To CF”
Plate umpire Edwin Jimenez
With this umpire run in the 1st in 13 of 38 (34%) · league 49% 38 games
Per 1st inning 0.55 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.18 K (lg 2.00) · 0.66 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel+102-130
BetMGM-105-120
Caesars-105-125
BetRivers+105-134

Market's NRFI chance: 53% (margin removed, average of 4 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Chicago White Sox at Boston Red Sox

1:35 PM ETFenway Park · Boston, MAFinal
Top 1st White Sox bat vs Richard Fitts RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this seasonNo 1st innings yet this season
Pitcher vs White SoxHasn't faced the White Sox
White Sox vs RHP scored in 30 of 111 (27%) · 0.40 runs/1st 111 games
White Sox top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Red Sox bat vs Chris Flexen RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 16 of 27 (59%) · 0.44 runs/1st 27 starts
Pitcher vs Red Sox scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Red Sox vs RHP scored in 35 of 102 (34%) · 0.58 runs/1st 102 games
Red Sox top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 11 mph blowing out (+8 mph toward center) · 69°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “11 mph, Out To RF”
Plate umpire Andy Fletcher
With this umpire run in the 1st in 31 of 60 (52%) · league 49% 60 games
Per 1st inning 1.08 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.00 K (lg 2.00) · 1.40 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-142+112
BetMGM-135+105
Caesars-135+105
betonlineag-125-106
BetRivers-139+110

Market's NRFI chance: 46% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Toronto Blue Jays at Atlanta Braves

1:35 PM ETTruist Park · Atlanta, GAFinal
Top 1st Blue Jays bat vs Chris Sale LHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 17 of 26 (65%) · 0.42 runs/1st 26 starts
Pitcher vs Blue Jays scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Blue Jays vs LHP scored in 9 of 30 (30%) · 0.63 runs/1st 30 games
Blue Jays top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Braves bat vs Yariel Rodríguez RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 12 of 17 (71%) · 0.71 runs/1st 17 starts
Pitcher vs BravesHasn't faced the Braves
Braves vs RHP scored in 30 of 99 (30%) · 0.57 runs/1st 99 games
Braves top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 12 mph across the field · 76°F, Partly Cloudy
MLB game-time report: “12 mph, L To R”
Plate umpire Doug Eddings
With this umpire run in the 1st in 21 of 61 (34%) · league 49% 61 games
Per 1st inning 0.77 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.08 K (lg 2.00) · 0.75 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-104-122
BetMGM+100-130
Caesars+110-140
betonlineag+105-139
BetRivers+105-134

Market's NRFI chance: 54% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Cincinnati Reds at New York Mets

1:40 PM ETCiti Field · Flushing, NYFinal
Top 1st Reds bat vs Luis Severino RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 25 of 27 (93%) · 0.22 runs/1st 27 starts
Pitcher vs Reds scoreless 1 of 2 (50%) · 0.50 runs/1st 2 starts
Reds vs RHP scored in 29 of 102 (28%) · 0.49 runs/1st 102 games
Reds top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Mets bat vs Julian Aguiar RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 2 of 4 (50%) · 0.75 runs/1st 4 starts
Pitcher vs MetsHasn't faced the Mets
Mets vs RHP scored in 23 of 103 (22%) · 0.37 runs/1st 103 games
Mets top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 10 mph blowing out (+7 mph toward center) · 68°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “10 mph, Out To RF”
Plate umpire Brock Ballou
With this umpire run in the 1st in 15 of 25 (60%) · league 49% 25 games
Per 1st inning 0.84 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.20 K (lg 2.00) · 1.24 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-122-104
BetMGM+100-125
Caesars-105-125
betonlineag-105-127
BetRivers-115-110

Market's NRFI chance: 51% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Philadelphia Phillies at Miami Marlins

1:40 PM ETloanDepot park · Miami, FLFinal
Top 1st Phillies bat vs Edward Cabrera RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 14 of 16 (88%) · 0.31 runs/1st 16 starts
Pitcher vs Phillies scoreless 3 of 3 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 3 starts
Phillies vs RHP scored in 33 of 90 (37%) · 0.62 runs/1st 90 games
Phillies top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Marlins bat vs Seth Johnson RHP2 runs
Pitcher, this seasonNo 1st innings yet this season
Pitcher vs MarlinsHasn't faced the Marlins
Marlins vs RHP scored in 23 of 92 (25%) · 0.59 runs/1st 92 games
Marlins top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind Roof closed: no wind · 72°F
MLB game-time report: “0 mph, None”
Plate umpire Nate Tomlinson
With this umpire run in the 1st in 30 of 59 (51%) · league 49% 59 games
Per 1st inning 0.80 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.07 K (lg 2.00) · 1.17 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-113-113
BetMGM-110-120
Caesars-110-120
betonlineag-115-115

Market's NRFI chance: 51% (margin removed, average of 4 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Colorado Rockies at Milwaukee Brewers

2:10 PM ETAmerican Family Field · Milwaukee, WIFinal
Top 1st Rockies bat vs Freddy Peralta RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 19 of 28 (68%) · 0.61 runs/1st 28 starts
Pitcher vs Rockies scoreless 1 of 2 (50%) · 0.50 runs/1st 2 starts
Rockies vs RHP scored in 29 of 100 (29%) · 0.59 runs/1st 100 games
Rockies top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Brewers bat vs Kyle Freeland LHP1 run
Pitcher, this season scoreless 11 of 17 (65%) · 0.47 runs/1st 17 starts
Pitcher vs Brewers scoreless 2 of 2 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 2 starts
Brewers vs LHP scored in 11 of 39 (28%) · 0.49 runs/1st 39 games
Brewers top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 11 mph blowing in (−8 mph from center) · 70°F, Partly Cloudy
MLB game-time report: “11 mph, In From RF”
Plate umpire Roberto Ortiz
With this umpire run in the 1st in 27 of 55 (49%) · league 49% 55 games
Per 1st inning 0.76 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 1.80 K (lg 2.00) · 0.95 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel+100-128
BetMGM-105-120
Caesars+105-135
betonlineag+105-139
BetRivers+104-132

Market's NRFI chance: 53% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Minnesota Twins at Kansas City Royals

2:10 PM ETKauffman Stadium · Kansas City, MOFinal
Top 1st Twins bat vs Michael Wacha RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 20 of 25 (80%) · 0.24 runs/1st 25 starts
Pitcher vs Twins scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Twins vs RHP scored in 29 of 101 (29%) · 0.49 runs/1st 101 games
Twins top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Royals bat vs Simeon Woods Richardson RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 21 of 24 (88%) · 0.29 runs/1st 24 starts
Pitcher vs Royals scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Royals vs RHP scored in 32 of 113 (28%) · 0.50 runs/1st 113 games
Royals top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 6 mph across the field · 73°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “6 mph, R To L”
Plate umpire Shane Livensparger
With this umpire run in the 1st in 22 of 34 (65%) · league 49% 34 games
Per 1st inning 0.94 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 1.97 K (lg 2.00) · 1.53 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel+100-128
BetMGM-120-105
Caesars-105-125
betonlineag-115-115
BetRivers+102-129

Market's NRFI chance: 51% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Seattle Mariners at St. Louis Cardinals

2:15 PM ETBusch Stadium · St. Louis, MOFinal
Top 1st Mariners bat vs Miles Mikolas RHP5 runs
Pitcher, this season scoreless 23 of 28 (82%) · 0.39 runs/1st 28 starts
Pitcher vs Mariners scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Mariners vs RHP scored in 23 of 103 (22%) · 0.43 runs/1st 103 games
Mariners top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Cardinals bat vs Luis Castillo RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 19 of 29 (66%) · 0.38 runs/1st 29 starts
Pitcher vs Cardinals scoreless 0 of 1 (0%) · 1.00 runs/1st 1 start
Cardinals vs RHP scored in 26 of 103 (25%) · 0.58 runs/1st 103 games
Cardinals top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind calm (1 mph) · 72°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “1 mph, In From RF”
Plate umpire Nestor Ceja
With this umpire run in the 1st in 25 of 55 (45%) · league 49% 55 games
Per 1st inning 0.91 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.11 K (lg 2.00) · 1.04 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel+108-138
BetMGM+100-130
Caesars+110-140
betonlineag+112-149
BetRivers+102-129

Market's NRFI chance: 54% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

New York Yankees at Chicago Cubs

2:20 PM ETWrigley Field · Chicago, ILFinal
Top 1st Yankees bat vs Jameson Taillon RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 19 of 24 (79%) · 0.21 runs/1st 24 starts
Pitcher vs Yankees scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Yankees vs RHP scored in 43 of 101 (43%) · 0.84 runs/1st 101 games
Yankees top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Cubs bat vs Gerrit Cole RHP2 runs
Pitcher, this season scoreless 11 of 13 (85%) · 0.15 runs/1st 13 starts
Pitcher vs Cubs scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Cubs vs RHP scored in 26 of 115 (23%) · 0.46 runs/1st 115 games
Cubs top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 8 mph blowing out (+6 mph toward center) · 70°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “8 mph, Out To RF”
Plate umpire Brian Walsh
With this umpire run in the 1st in 21 of 42 (50%) · league 49% 42 games
Per 1st inning 0.69 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 1.76 K (lg 2.00) · 1.07 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-115-111
BetMGM-120-105
Caesars-105-125
betonlineag-115-115

Market's NRFI chance: 50% (margin removed, average of 4 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Los Angeles Angels at Texas Rangers

2:35 PM ETGlobe Life Field · Arlington, TXFinal
Top 1st Angels bat vs Andrew Heaney LHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 20 of 27 (74%) · 0.44 runs/1st 27 starts
Pitcher vs Angels scoreless 2 of 2 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 2 starts
Angels vs LHP scored in 9 of 29 (31%) · 0.38 runs/1st 29 games
Angels top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Rangers bat vs Caden Dana RHP3 runs
Pitcher, this season scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Pitcher vs RangersHasn't faced the Rangers
Rangers vs RHP scored in 32 of 105 (30%) · 0.50 runs/1st 105 games
Rangers top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 11 mph across the field · 81°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “11 mph, Varies”
Plate umpire Ryan Blakney
With this umpire run in the 1st in 27 of 53 (51%) · league 49% 53 games
Per 1st inning 0.89 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.02 K (lg 2.00) · 0.96 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-111-115
BetMGM-115-110
Caesars-110-120
betonlineag-115-115

Market's NRFI chance: 50% (margin removed, average of 4 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Detroit Tigers at Oakland Athletics

4:07 PM ETOakland ColiseumFinal
Top 1st Tigers bat vs J.T. Ginn RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 1 of 2 (50%) · 1.00 runs/1st 2 starts
Pitcher vs TigersHasn't faced the Tigers
Tigers vs RHP scored in 33 of 115 (29%) · 0.43 runs/1st 115 games
Tigers top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Athletics bat vs Beau Brieske RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 4 of 8 (50%) · 1.13 runs/1st 8 starts
Pitcher vs AthleticsHasn't faced the Athletics
Athletics vs RHP scored in 30 of 111 (27%) · 0.47 runs/1st 111 games
Athletics top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 9 mph blowing out (+6 mph toward center) · 76°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “9 mph, Out To RF”
Plate umpire Quinn Wolcott
With this umpire run in the 1st in 26 of 56 (46%) · league 49% 56 games
Per 1st inning 0.84 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.30 K (lg 2.00) · 1.00 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-113-113
BetMGM-105-120
Caesars-105-125
betonlineag-115-115
BetRivers-109-117

Market's NRFI chance: 51% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

San Francisco Giants at San Diego Padres

4:10 PM ETPetco Park · San Diego, CAFinal
Top 1st Giants bat vs Joe Musgrove RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 10 of 15 (67%) · 0.53 runs/1st 15 starts
Pitcher vs Giants scoreless 1 of 2 (50%) · 1.50 runs/1st 2 starts
Giants vs RHP scored in 23 of 101 (23%) · 0.34 runs/1st 101 games
Giants top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Padres bat vs Spencer Bivens RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Pitcher vs PadresHasn't faced the Padres
Padres vs RHP scored in 34 of 101 (34%) · 0.66 runs/1st 101 games
Padres top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 9 mph across the field · 91°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “9 mph, L To R”
Plate umpire Tom Hanahan
With this umpire run in the 1st in 26 of 41 (63%) · league 49% 41 games
Per 1st inning 0.66 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.07 K (lg 2.00) · 1.17 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-113-113
BetMGM-120-105
Caesars-110-120
betonlineag-115-115

Market's NRFI chance: 50% (margin removed, average of 4 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Cleveland Guardians at Los Angeles Dodgers

4:10 PM ETUNIQLO Field at Dodger Stadium · Los Angeles, CAFinal
Top 1st Guardians bat vs Jack Flaherty RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 19 of 24 (79%) · 0.38 runs/1st 24 starts
Pitcher vs Guardians scoreless 3 of 4 (75%) · 0.25 runs/1st 4 starts
Guardians vs RHP scored in 24 of 103 (23%) · 0.43 runs/1st 103 games
Guardians top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Dodgers bat vs Tanner Bibee RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 17 of 27 (63%) · 0.56 runs/1st 27 starts
Pitcher vs DodgersHasn't faced the Dodgers
Dodgers vs RHP scored in 40 of 95 (42%) · 0.79 runs/1st 95 games
Dodgers top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind 5 mph across the field · 103°F, Sunny
MLB game-time report: “5 mph, L To R”
Plate umpire Dan Bellino
With this umpire run in the 1st in 32 of 62 (52%) · league 49% 62 games
Per 1st inning 1.06 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.11 K (lg 2.00) · 1.21 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-108-118
BetMGM-115-110
Caesars-115-115
betonlineag-115-115
BetRivers-127-107

Market's NRFI chance: 50% (margin removed, average of 5 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.

Arizona Diamondbacks at Houston Astros

7:10 PM ETDaikin Park · Houston, TXFinal
Top 1st Diamondbacks bat vs Justin Verlander RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 8 of 13 (62%) · 0.69 runs/1st 13 starts
Pitcher vs Diamondbacks scoreless 1 of 1 (100%) · 0.00 runs/1st 1 start
Diamondbacks vs RHP scored in 35 of 90 (39%) · 0.78 runs/1st 90 games
Diamondbacks top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Bot 1st Astros bat vs Ryne Nelson RHPScoreless
Pitcher, this season scoreless 20 of 24 (83%) · 0.17 runs/1st 24 starts
Pitcher vs AstrosHasn't faced the Astros
Astros vs RHP scored in 30 of 103 (29%) · 0.48 runs/1st 103 games
Astros top of orderNot rated yet (updates each morning)
Wind Roof closed: no wind · 0°F
MLB game-time report: “0 mph, None”
Plate umpire Lance Barrett
With this umpire run in the 1st in 26 of 59 (44%) · league 49% 59 games
Per 1st inning 0.69 BB+HBP (lg 0.83) · 2.15 K (lg 2.00) · 1.02 runs (lg 1.04)

Context, not an edge: in 2023-2026 (7,965 games) umpires' 1st-inning scoring rates differed no more than luck would produce.

1st inning, 0.5 runsYRFINRFI
FanDuel-113-113
BetMGM-110-115
Caesars+100-130
betonlineag-115-115

Market's NRFI chance: 51% (margin removed, average of 4 books)

Full-game lines not posted yet.